Talk:Texas Instruments
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This article is mainly corporate advertising - from company sources
[edit]This article looks WAY too much like corporate public-relations material from Texas Instruments, itself. Small wonder: MOST of the sources are from TI, itself, and its website! Even the references to PRNewswire and BusinessWire are essentially to reprints of TI's own press-releases.
This is completely contrary to the editing standards of Wikipedia, violating Wikipedia's core guidelines: Neutral Point-of-View, Reliable Sources, and -- almost certainly, given the style of most of the text -- Wikipedia guidelines on editing with a Conflict-of-Interest).
For just one example, the article only very briefly addresses (and completely glosses over) TI's pivotal role (and catastrophic failure)[1][2] in the development of the digital consumer electronics market -- pocket calculators, digital watches, vocal toys (e.g.: Speak-and-Spell, and (most significantly) home computers. While its role with calculators remains strong, the entire company was reportedly brought to the brink of bankruptcy[3] by the rest of its engagement in that market -- surviving simply by suing its smaller competitors over patent-infringement claims,[3][4] and exercising its power to restrict their access to computer chips.[1]
TI's massive industry-destructive[1][2] (and ultimately self-destructive)[1][2] consumer products venture "shocked Wall Street" with confessions of up to $100 million dollars in single-quarter losses,[5] leading to that division president's resignation in 1983,[2][5] to no avail[2] -- the company ultimately dumping support for over a million of its customers (the second largest group of customers in the home computer market at the time), despite having assured them it would not.[2][6]
(NOTE: Much more documentation of these facts is available online and in print; I wanted to refrain from "citation overkill").
This group of major omissions from the article is just one of the glaring examples of this article's wildy lop-sided presentation of the history of one of the electronic industry's most influential (and historically controversial) companies.
This article needs to be purged of its promotional language and corporate references, and revised to reflect a neutral and balanced view of the company and its history -- documented primarily from substantial and independent sources, per WP:RS, WP:NPOV, and WP:COI.
- As an uninvolved editor, I think the article may be a candidate for WP:DRAFTIFY due to limited progress in addressing promotional tone issues. I do not know much about Texas Instruments, but this article does not mention the controversy over the pricing of TI-84 and its role in American school classes (source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/innovations/wp/2014/09/02/the-unstoppable-ti-84-plus-how-an-outdated-calculator-still-holds-a-monopoly-on-classrooms) --Minoa (talk) 03:39, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
References
- ^ a b c d Sanger David E.: "Two Standouts in Electronics," August 1, 1983, New York Times -- also at "Commodore Weathers The Storm," August 1, 1983, The Sheboygan Press, retrieved October 20, 2020
- ^ a b c d e f Pollack, Andrew: "Texas Instruments' Pullout," October 31, 1983, New York Times, retrieved October 20, 2020
- ^ a b Rivette, Kevin G. & David Kline: "Rembrandts in the Attic: Unlocking the Hidden Value of Patents," supra note 15, at 125, (2000), cited in note 20, in Chien, Colleen: "From Arms Race to Marketplace: The Complex Patent Ecosystem and Its Implications for the Patent System," January 1, 2010, Faculty Publications, Santa Clara University School of Law -- also cited by Menell -- retrieved October 20, 2020
- ^ Menell, Peter S.. (Berkeley Center for Law & Technology, University of California at Berkeley School of Law): "Patent Showdown at the N.D. CORRAL," 2019, Chicago-Kent Journal of Intellecutal Property, Vol 18:3, pp.460 et. seq., retrieved October 20, 2020
- ^ a b Associated Press (New York) report: "Turner quits ailing Texas Instruments unit,"July 23, 1983, Baltimore Sun -- also at: "Computer executive quits," July 23, 1983, page 9, Longview News-Journal, Longview, Texas -- both versions retrieved from OCR text at Newspapers.com, October 20, 2020
- ^ Belkin, Lisa: "If Your Computer is No Longer Made," June 21, 1984, New York Times, retrieved October 20, 2020
Nothing about their minicomputers?
[edit]2603:8001:3846:2D00:F562:2E7C:3C95:8 (talk) 20:47, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
No text in preview
[edit]Is it just me or is there no text in the preview popup for this page? Pksois23 (talk) 13:21, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
Stock index
[edit]An IP editor has repeatedly added a link to MSCI KLD 400 Social Index, using an index fund sales page as the source. Such a source does not show that this is a significant aspect of this company (or any of the dozens of others company they've been adding the same link to), and a sales page is generally considered an inappropriate link. I am deleting it a second time; please do not attempt reinsertion until some consensus has been reached here. -- Nat Gertler (talk) 20:25, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
Requested move 23 July 2024
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: Withdrawn. There is a consensus that this should be cleaned up while still in manspace. (non-admin closure) Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:54, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
Texas Instruments → Draft:Texas Instruments – I am in a position to suggest moving this article to draftspace because due to insufficient progress in addressing serious promotional tone issues (see Talk:Texas Instruments#This article is mainly corporate advertising - from company sources). Although I do not know much about Texas Instruments, this article clearly leaves out negative issues, such as the controversy over the pricing of TI-84 and its role in American school classes (for example: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/innovations/wp/2014/09/02/the-unstoppable-ti-84-plus-how-an-outdated-calculator-still-holds-a-monopoly-on-classrooms). I do not know what else I can do to try and persuade editors to rid the article of its excessively promotional tone, but as of now there is far too much POV to be a proper article. --Minoa (talk) 15:42, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose and speedy procedural close as not appropriate. The nominator is complaining about the quality of the current article content without providing any comments about the name of the article. This is not the right forum for that. — BarrelProof (talk) 17:02, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- The article is about a company with obvious great historical significance, tens of thousands of employees, and tens of billions of dollars of market capitalization, revenue and assets. It was the producer of the first transistor radio, the first integrated circuits, the first hand-held calculator, and the first single-chip microcomputer. This proposal is absurd. — BarrelProof (talk) 17:14, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose per WP:DRAFTNO. I also see no effort by the nominator, or anyone, to actually the address the so-called problems. Maybe do that first. ~~ Jessintime (talk) 17:04, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- Speedy close article has existed since 2002 and seems to be notable, it has 52 interlanguage Wikipedia links so this needs to be solved by normal editing. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:18, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- Speedy close per the comments: it seems I misunderstood the way and means to try and get the article improved to NPOV standards without considering the potential collateral damage. Thanks for reminding me on this: I don't know what I was thinking. Apologies for the inconvenience. --Minoa (talk) 18:38, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
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