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Discussion for Today

This page is transcluded from Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024_August_1

August 1

NEW NOMINATIONS

Propose renaming Category:Secretaries of State for Health and Social Services to Category:Secretaries of State for Health and Social Security

Nominator's rationale: This is a mistake - the title of both the former department and its secretary of state is 'Health and Social Security' not 'Health and Social Services'.

Category:Scholars by subfield

Propose renaming Category:Scholars by subfield to Category:Scholars by field

Nominator's rationale: The decision several years back to rename this Category using the term "subfield" is rather perplexing. Given the contents of the Category (which are fields, not sub-fields), as well as its original name ("Scholars by specialty or field of research" - it was actually a very poor choice of words, when the obvious choice was simply "field". Not to mention that its high-level parent is Category:Categories by field, not the non-existent Category:Categories by subfield. Anomalous+0 (talk) 10:55, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Discotek Media

Propose deleting Category:Discotek Media (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Non-WP:DEFINING. US company distributing Japanese content for American market, no hand in the production for these entries. --wooden superman 10:48, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Emory and Henry College

Propose renaming Category:Emory and Henry College to Category:Emory and Henry University
Propose renaming Category:Emory and Henry College alumni to Category:Emory and Henry University alumni
Propose renaming Category:Emory and Henry College faculty to Category:Emory and Henry University faculty

Nominator's rationale: Became a university on 8/1/2024 https://wcyb.com/news/local/emory-henry-on-track-to-transition-from-college-to-university-in-august https://www.emoryhenry.edu/live/news/3145-emory-henry-trustees-vote-to-approve wizzito | say hello! 10:37, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Articles requiring a direct DNB link

Propose deleting Category:Articles requiring a direct DNB link (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: This category is meant for pages that need Template:Dictionary of National Biography and might only be used by an inactive project. It seems all entries are manually placed which isn't helpful, but I also don't think this category itself is helpful. If the template is needed, just add it to the page. If the DNB link is on Wikidata is can get it automatically. There is no need for this additional tagging. Gonnym (talk) 07:38, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. This was a maintenance category for articles, and all the pages that remain in it are Talk: pages. It has therefore served its purpose, I would say. Charles Matthews (talk) 07:53, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: Continuing from Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 July 24#Category:Decades in the Colony of Virginia where the result was to populate the tree. To allow {{YYY0s in one of the Thirteen Colonies}} and related templates to work correctly and to match the parent Category:Decades in the Colony of Virginia and related categories (such as Category:Decades in the Massachusetts Bay Colony), the decade list should be renamed. I'll be doing the Colony of Virginia in batches. Gonnym (talk) 05:45, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:National Highways in China

Propose renaming Category:National Highways in China to Category:National Highways of China

Nominator's rationale: The scope of the category covers national highways of (belonging to) China, rather than those physically located in China, as evidenced by the member article China National Highway 228 (Taiwan), which is outside the area of China's de facto jurisdiction. Neutral on whether to also decapitalise, i.e. Category:National highways of China. Paul_012 (talk) 04:35, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:National highways in South Korea

Propose renaming Category:National highways in South Korea to Category:National highways of South Korea

Nominator's rationale: Agreement with main article National highways of South Korea. Would be C2D but a previous CfR failed due to disagreement on other sister categories, so nominating for full discussion. Paul_012 (talk) 04:31, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:National highways in Japan

Propose renaming Category:National highways in Japan to Category:National highways of Japan

Nominator's rationale: Agreement with main article National highways of Japan. Would be C2D but a previous CfR failed due to disagreement on other sister categories, so nominating for full discussion. Paul_012 (talk) 04:30, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:National highways in India

Propose renaming Category:National highways in India to Category:National highways of India

Nominator's rationale: Agreement with main article National highways of India. Would be C2D but a previous CfR failed due to disagreement on other sister categories, so nominating for full discussion. Paul_012 (talk) 04:26, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment, if these 4 categories are renamed it would make sense to rename the other 6 too. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:33, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- I intend to eventually pursue that option, but given the previous discussion I'm opting to focus on the clearer cases first. --Paul_012 (talk) 06:19, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:18th-century French politicians subcats

Propose deleting Category:18th-century French politicians subcats (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Pointless category which duplicates Category:18th-century French politicians. Gonnym (talk) 03:45, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:35, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Regions of the Dominican Republic

Propose deleting Category:Regions of the Dominican Republic (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Contains only the eponymous article Geographic regions of the Dominican Republic (none of the regions it lists have articles). jlwoodwa (talk) 03:40, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:45, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Villains in mythology and legend

Propose deleting Category:Villains in mythology and legend (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: As far as I know, "villain" is usually used in a literary context. We typically use "evil" to describe malevolent gods and there is already such a category called Category:Evil deities, making this redundant and pointless. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 05:06, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. This category is not restricted to gods or goddesses. This is supposed to be a counterpart to Category:Heroes in mythology and legend, and just as there are plenty of folklore heroes, there are folklore villains too. AHI-3000 (talk) 07:25, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support, demons are deities too (deities is broader than just gods and goddesses) and that leaves only one article in the category. That article illustrates nicely how difficult it is to classify a character as villain. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:03, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think that demons are typically classified as being "deities" or "gods". Deities and demons can both be spirits though. AHI-3000 (talk) 01:36, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Dimadick: What do you think of this? AHI-3000 (talk) 08:43, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- - Oppose, in folklore there are several folk devils that can be covered. Dimadick (talk) 08:47, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    - That should become part of Category:Devils which is already in this category tree. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:50, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, House Blaster (talk · he/they) 01:52, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep (oppose), as the old saying goes, not all mythological villains are evil gods but all mythological evil gods are villains. In other words, villains and gods do not necessarily travel in the same boat (Much ado about godding?). Randy Kryn (talk) 11:27, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and rename Category:Villains in folklore – There is room for expansion with characters from myths and folktales, e.g. Sheriff of Nottingham, that may or may not be in other villain categories. We use folklore as a broader term that also encompasses mythology and legends. MClay1 (talk) 04:53, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on renaming? (I am currently seeing consensus that the category should exist, but that can of course change.)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, House Blaster (talk · he/they) 03:17, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@MClay1: I wouldn't mind having a Category:Villains in folklore and moving villains in legends to it. But I disagree with moving evil deities and demons to it, that is really something different. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:53, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Surely all evil gods are villains within the myths they featured in? MClay1 (talk) 10:50, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Irish blind musicians

Propose merging Category:Irish blind musicians to Category:Blind musicians and Category:Irish blind people
Propose merging Category:Irish blind harpists to Category:Irish blind musicians and Category:Irish harpists

Nominator's rationale: Only nationality category in Category:Blind musicians. Seems like an unnecessary intersection between nationality, musicians, and disability. Omnis Scientia (talk) 23:42, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:52, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Lean Oppose. I agree that the 3x intersection isn't really defining (although there is a section decided to Irish blind musicians Blind musicians#Traditional Irish musicians). However, the parent category is large enough to be diffused by nationality.Mason (talk) 13:29, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I will note that item 2 in the proposal is to merge the harpists category into the musicians category, but item 1 is to merge the musicians category elsewhere.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, House Blaster (talk · he/they) 01:50, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, House Blaster (talk · he/they) 03:15, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Omnis Scientia: see HouseBlaster's comment, it seems you need to revise the nomination one way or another. For example change the second as follows: Propose merging Category:Irish blind harpists to Category:Irish harpists and Category:Irish blind people. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:59, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Marcocapelle, done. Omnis Scientia (talk) 09:41, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I Strongly oppose merging Category:Irish blind musicians; given the large number of articles in Category:Blind musicians, it should in fact have a whole set of subcats by nationality.

However, I do Support merging Category:Irish blind harpists as proposed; I see no compelling reason to subdivide by instrument. Anomalous+0 (talk) 11:07, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Selonia-geo-stub

Propose deleting Template:Selonia-geo-stub (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Malformed and unused. jlwoodwa (talk) 01:48, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. –LaundryPizza03 (d c̄) 04:15, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]